"The most sensible people to be met with in society are men of business and of the world, who argue from what they see and know, instead of spinning cobweb distinctions of what things ought to be."
I'm not one to argue with people. My reason is simple and pragmatic: people seldom change their beliefs through a reasoning process. Check out my friend David Wolfe's post to understand why: click here.
But in the case of this recent BusinessWeek article - Creating an Effective Brand - I feel compelled to add my two cents. In fact, the reasoning behind author Chris Kenton's writing is precisely why I wrote my new book - A Clear Eye for Branding.
Please read his article and tell me your thoughts. I've posted mine on his blog:
I guess the article stands on its own, because right up front you defined "brand" as "the symbol that distinguishes one company's products from the competition." So, in essence, your article is about creating an effective symbol. Correct? An image to represent the "business fundamentals, product platform, and value proposition" that are already in place?
You wrote "Plenty of crummy brands are plastered on successful companies." Isn't commercial success the measure of a brand? Or are you proposing "expert" assessment? Should TIAA-CREF invest in a new name and logo (a.k.a. a new "brand" in your book) because some design consultancy thinks that they should?
Again, please let me know your thoughts. Thanks.
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Hi Tom,
I'm very suprised by what Chris Kenton wrote. The guy obviously knows his stuff, yet he completely blows it in his article. He's talking about about logos and trademarks, but calling them brands.
On his personal site, Kenton writes about the difficulty of adding value in 900 words. Perhaps that's why he's fudged the Business Week piece.
If I were king of the world, I'd come up with a new word for "brand". The current word is too closely tied to its original meaning (a physical mark) to mentally convey what branding actually means.
Well, now you've gone and inspired me to write more on the subject! Just when I was about to get some work done too...
Posted by: Peter Flaschner | May 04, 2005 at 12:19 PM
On first read, Kenton's article struck me as an advertorial for his company's design work. It was, ironically, less about substance and more about image aesthetics. He makes frequent reference to using an "experienced design team" to help forge a look and feel as opposed to really sculpting a corporate persona based on values and objectives and letting the imagery spring from those objectives.
On second read... well, honestly, it didn't seem worth my while to read this "article" again. Sorry Mr. Keaton.
Posted by: kelli mckinney | May 04, 2005 at 12:22 PM
Chris Keaton is off the mark in thinking that a brand is a logo or packaging. The problem isn't that he had only 900 words; it is that he doesn't understand that in today's culture, a brand is defined by everything that stands behind it and meets the standards its customers set for it. Having edited your new book, A Clear Eye for Branding, I can truthfully say, "Help is on the way."
Posted by: Doris Walsh | May 04, 2005 at 12:38 PM
I think a marketer will have issue with a designer's definition of brand, and vice versa. We're getting into the "chicken or the egg" argument again. On one hand, designers define brand as the sum of a companies visual elements = their short-sighted definition. On the other hand, a Marketing Consultant will attempt to make Brand into some kind of wispy, grandiose, and far-too-complex process in order to ensure they have a job.
Brand is the sum of all these parts.
The article simply focuses on the visual components of Brand, and that makes sense from the author's perspective (making a living). I think some of what he says is fair and accurate - and he certainly didn't slaughter the concept enough to warrant lambasting. LOL.
I think when he said:
"Plenty of crummy brands are plastered on successful companies."
he should have stated that plenty of successful companies have ill-conceived or poorly managed brands. I think that is possible, but if they are successful, who cares?
Brand, in my opinion, is like this...
I went to high school with a girl who was pretty smart and had average looks - She was someone you would not turn to look at on the street, let's put it that way. But her confidence and sense of self were enormous. She exuded self-confidence and pride. She took the time to be stylish. She played sports. She danced. She participated in academic pursuits. Her joy and confidence were contagious. Everyone wanted to be around her. They wanted whatever "it" was.
That girl knew how to put Brand power to work. :-)
Posted by: Aleah | May 04, 2005 at 01:27 PM
Hi Tom!
Keaton writes as a designer and an obviously talented one at that. He's an image maker, not necessarily, a truth-teller. The true beauty is when business meets brand and the synergy happens. So Keaton's point of view is valid, and actually benefical when one doesn't want the brand to equate to reality. He doesn't know any better, so he's an (un)witting accomplice in projecting one thing, when truth lies elsewhere.
His examples refelct an "image is everything" mindset that can occassionaly workout. My experience tells me that is the exception, not the rule.
Be On-Purpose!
Kevin
Posted by: Kevin W. McCarthy | May 04, 2005 at 01:34 PM
The BusinessWeek article reminds me of the old adage..."when you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail." The author sees brands from a more limited standpoint of "design" because that's where his expertise is, and so that's where most of his dialog remains. I prefer the way David Ogilvy talked about brands...he said of Brand Image that..."You have to decide what image you want for your brand. Image means personality. Products, like people, have personalities, and they can make or break them in the marketplace. The personality of a product is an amalgam of many things - its name, its packaging, its price, the style of its advertising, and above all, the nature of the product itself."
David's comments positioned the "things" that contribute to brands (like design) in a subservient role to overall the image you want to project in order to create an enduring relationship with the consumer.
Posted by: Gene Del Vecchio | May 04, 2005 at 02:06 PM
If you believe the definition that a brand is just an image, or a logo that a company uses the issue becomes simpler. The article gives the brand an awful lot of credit why some of their clients have been successful. This is gross in its bravado. Even if you buy that the brand of a wolf howling at the moon was part of the success of CopperMountain, I believe that could only create a good initial impression - that's it. After that, the company will only be successful based on the service or product it provides and how it does it. If the brand opened the door of opportunity, great, but after that, it's inconsequential. What people will think when they see the brand in the future will be what they have experience when dealing with that company and its products.
Posted by: David Timm | May 04, 2005 at 02:41 PM
The conclusion I get from reading Mr. Keaton's article is "hire a designer to create your brand and leave them alone." Brand is so much more than design. Is design important? Absolutely! It influences the first impressions and experiential feelings of the product offering. But it is just one of many components of the soul of a brand.
I've had substantial experience in advertising, marketing and design. Creating a fundamentally sound product and communicating the essence of that product's feeling in all forms of communication working synergistically is the key.
As a young brand manager in the 70's, the president of the company walked into my office and put a small bottle on my desk. He said he found it on a trip to Europe and said, "See what you can do with it". Working with research, advertising, design, promotion, sales and technology (such as it was in the 70's)and a very small budget we created a core experiential-based haircare brand that is still a market leader today.
As a principal in a design firm, we created a design for a major airline that met all objectives of design and won awards, but it could not compensate for the weak brand fundamentals of a company that is alive but struggling to hang on today.
Mr. Keaton clearly establishes that brand fundamentals need to be strong but singles out design with far too much importance. To take two phrases from the article and take the liberty of marrying them together, "Brand as design equals image without substance."
Posted by: bob | May 04, 2005 at 02:45 PM
I've got to agree with many of the comments above regarding the article focus on "designers." Brand is as much a business process as it is a design exercise. I was encouraged when I read "First, make sure your business fundamentals, product platform, and value proposition are well in place. Without that, branding won't help," but after that there was nothing impressive other than what seemed to be a fair amount of self promotion.
My experience is that branding requires a marriage between design and the entire business all aimed at influencing the perceptions of stakeholders. Most great brands are built over time as a representation of their entire business, not simply created by a series of design consulting engagements and a subsequent "brand launch." Kenton's article misses the mark in this area.
Posted by: Andrew Hayden | May 04, 2005 at 04:42 PM
I think he's right, but in a very narrow space. If you define the argument simply along the lines of word definition, with two clear sides...
side 1: Brand is a mark or symbol that distinguishes your company's products from the competition.
side 2: Brand is the image/feeling/emotion a customer or prospect gets when they see your mark or symbol on a product.
...the question then becomes, how can those two definitions define the same word? Kenton's answer is to choose the first definition and state that everything else is a different word with a "brand" as adjective i.e. brand image, brand reputation. So, on the most basic level, he's right: the definition of the word "brand" is very simple and exclusive of other meanings. It's a logo.
And if you adopt his view you will simplify the brand discussion. Everytime you say the word "brand," you are refering to the logo. If you want to talk about something else, you've got to add another word.
Cool. Great. Thanks for simplifying.
But, the power of any brand (logo) is only derived from all the other stuff in definition 2. Ultimately, I'd want to make sure that my brand (logo) evoked a bunch of positive feelings from all my constituents,
and I'd spend a lot more time and money making that happen than I would in designing my brand (logo).
So lets give Kenton his discussion-simplification point and start using "brand" to mean logo. Then lets
forget about all that and spend our time making sure that when a customer or prospect sees our brand she thinks "hey that must be something good cuz that logo
means quality, service, convenience, value, and lots of other good stuff."
We could call that "marketing."
Posted by: Chris Costello | May 04, 2005 at 04:59 PM
Tom,
I don't think your point came across very clearly. But if you meant to criticize Kenton, then I think you're on the right track. Kenton writes "brand" when he really means logo; unfortunately that's all too common in the design community. But a logo is only a very small part of a brand, as you, I, and most real marketers know. The error begins right in his subtitle: "First, make sure your business fundamentals, product platform, and value proposition are well in place. Without that, branding won't help." If crafting your value proposition isn't an essential part of developing your brand, then I don't know what is.
Posted by: Andrew Abela | May 04, 2005 at 05:04 PM
I agree wuth Doctor Abela. I wasn't nearly clear enough. But you all seem to be taking care of that for me. Thanks.
Posted by: Tom Asacker | May 04, 2005 at 05:11 PM
If everyone would just remember this old Cheech & Chong joke, the marketing/branding world would be so much better:
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Two guys go into the woods and come across a large pile of something...
One guys says, "What's that?"
"Looks like dogs**t," says the other.
"Oh. What does it smell like?"
"What?"
"Smell it. What does it smell like?"
The guy smells it. "Smells like dogs**t."
"Oh. What does it taste like?"
"What?"
"Taste it. What does it taste like?"
The guy tastes it. "Ugh. Tastes like dogs**t".
"Oh. Then it's a good thing we didn't step in it."
Posted by: Anon | May 04, 2005 at 05:44 PM
Well....you *can* certainly talk about branding as if it were simply a set of design elements, as Kenton does. The question is, why would you want to? If you do, then you don't have another word or set of words to talk about all the other components that make up modern-day branding.
Posted by: Renee Hopkins Callahan | May 04, 2005 at 06:05 PM
Everybody defines "brand" according to which definition validates them the most.
Obviously, if you are in the visual business, the brand-as-visual object works for you best.
People exploit what God gives them to the best of their ability, and forget the rest, to the best of their ability.
Posted by: hugh macleod | May 04, 2005 at 06:34 PM
Even as a designer, I agree that referring to the visual assets of a branding program as "the brand" is a clear omission of fundamental human elements that work to form a brand.
My feeling is that a brand is always in a state of motion -- branding is process. The message will be delivered regardless of the medium. In its most ranging and holistic sense, the meaning might be broadcast in print or by handshake.
Posted by: Rick Sato | May 04, 2005 at 09:02 PM
Tom,
Here's my response to Chistopher:
Christopher,
Here is a piece I recently posted at Soflow -- with some minor changes -- to address the "branding problem" to paraphrase philosophers and scientists who talk about the "mind problem" in referring to inscrutable consciousness:
I don't think defining "brand" and "branding" in a marketing context is all that complicated -- certainly not so complicated as to have had volumes and volumes written on the topic in which untold incidents of conflict and muddle-headed propositions exist.
First, let's go back to the origins of the term "brand." A "brand" was originally "a piece of burning wood." The word comes from West and North Germanic "brandaz", a derivative of the same base that produced "burn", "brandy" and perhaps "broil."
In the 16th century, the term came to be applied to an identifying mark made with a hot iron. In the 19th century, the term was first applied to a particular make of goods. In other words, a brand was a signifier of a specific product's identity.
How many books can you write around that?
Well, in any event, if we adhere to the linguistic (and semiotic) foundations of the term, a brand is a product presented in a way to facilitate its distinctiveness from other products in peoples' minds. But we must not forget that a brand's minders do not entirely define a brand. Wwe know from recent research involving brain scanning technology that brands are mentally processed primarily in the emotional, subjective right hemishpere of the brain. That means anything brain minders say about a brain is reprocessed by each consumer who internalizes the results in an idiosyncratic form. So -- as a story has as many versions as there are people hearing it, so also it is with a brand even though veins of common inference streak through consumers' mental models of the brand.
I like what Margaret Mark and Carol Pearson say in "The Hero and the Outlaw" -- to my mind one of the most useful books ever written about branding -- on what branding should be about. They say branding is (or should be) about "meaning management."
Thus, I define a "brand" as "a product that bears the marks of a unique identity," and "branding" as "actions related to the management of the meaning a brand stands for." Fulstop! Period! Finis! So let's find something more useful than arguing over how many brands can fit on the head of a pin!
Posted by: David Wolfe | May 04, 2005 at 09:37 PM
The posting and article are certainly attracting a lot of passionate comments.
Initially, having read the whole on a first pass, I'll side with Chris Costello's summary. And then sleep on it.
Sometimes, the best thinking comes with the new light of day.
Posted by: Steve S | May 04, 2005 at 09:45 PM
Hey Tom, well I just read his article and I think he, like many marketers, misses the answer he's sitting on top of. Since David's repiled here and I also referenced his comments over at Chris's, guess I'll do the same....
Christopher, I think several commenters have offered elements that complete your original (and perhaps underemphasized or underutilized) use of "Symbol."
Symbolic of what? That's what I want clients to get to: their innate hope and ambition for the business. Faking it, by often superfical measures and inevitably wrong reasons never works. David's right, Mark and Pearson do angle in on branding from an archetypal inner-meaning that's universal. Not deep enough in my view. They also note how many deeply valued and successful archetypal brands are accidental (i;e; Not managed, just became so after sheer luck or many fits and starts.)
But back to symbolism. What many branders/marketers miss IMHO is that they are really Jungian minstrels; writing tunes, stringing together stories that -- when done well (or accidentally) -- resonate with us in deeper "gotta have it; that's me!" ways.
And that brings us full circle through "make us look bigger" to Apd's "unique identity = truth." Truth is fluid, but it always derives from the Self -- an indivdual's or colective, company consciousness. (Proof of good branding is that both single and plural find each other and like the connection, like receptors and Dopamine in the brain. The proof comes in how many mistakes a brand "junkie" (consumer/employee) is willing to overlook from their brand "pusher" (company, etc.)
Note Ascend didn't ask: "Make us/me feel bigger"? Feel is what they wanted; mass equalled competence in their eyes, for purely irrational but very valid reasons. But Ascend's innate curiosity and drive is what made them "big" in the true "valuable brand" sense because that explorer''s ethic is universal and powerful.
Nothing wrong with insecurity or narcissim in branding - just make sure it's measured in frequencies and song your employees and customers want to march or dance to. And can hum with the slightest prompting.
[Apd: if you're inclined to jibe with David's thoughts and any of my mumbling above, you might want to peruse... http://www.alchemysite.com/blog/brain_brand_00.html ]
Posted by: fouro | May 05, 2005 at 02:00 AM
Chris Kenton's last BW piece is, as already commented here, an advertorial. It's cool for Chris to be able to do that in BW, really. But it's nothing more than that, despite his raconteurish style.
Now what is really remarkable in that article is that it talks of lots of (immaterial) things beyond mere symbols--the kind of things that have to do with branding as I understand it. This effectively voids Chris' own definition of 'brand', which has been hotly debated for quite a while now, and for good reason.
For the record, my views on brand and branding starkly differ from Chris' and mostly place me on the same side with Tom. Whom I conditionally support when he asserts that crummy brands and successful companies cannot really coexist. This is true with monolithic identities (think IBM), and less so with branded ones (think P&G), where one crummy brand can temporarily coexist with successful stablemates in a large brand portfolio.
Posted by: Stefan | May 05, 2005 at 05:52 AM
Dear Tom,
One, Literary advocation is the prerogative of the recognized. Or so,me thinks. Else why would Businessweek act trampoline to Christopher Kenton's fulsome 'self-campaign'.
Two, many a jargons on Brand come by. I believe, "Brand" is an implicit SLA. Good or bad. I rather pick up Evian
to Bisleri, because the former provides implicit assurance of safety, health, taste and purity.
Similarily, a brand can resonate an implicit "always the cheapest" SLA. Or contrarily the "premium" SLA. And both can be in money spinning business.
It's imperative that whatever it is that you as a brand want to resonate in consumer-cerebrum should come out bold in each consumer contact with your brand. Brand is built over and over again in each consumer contact. And each experience rendered accumulates to the emboldening (or withering) of a brand.
Perhaps logos and campaigns work. Interestingly I can't recollect if Evian has a logo. And 'am not sure if they are consistent in using "caps E" or "e". But does it matter as long as they are out selling trust. And safeguarding it.
You were named 'Tom'. That's perhaps your Logo. Several Tom's out there and several writing on the ether. You are you, because you have delivered substance in the past and are now implicitly expected to continue doing so. Sans that, one can't tell one Tom from another. A Brand is what one delivers.
Think Contrary.
Consumercy
P.S: Another spin off on the topic over at this permalink. you are welcome.
http://consumercy.typepad.com/consumercy/2005/04/are_you_done_wi.html
Posted by: Consumercy | May 05, 2005 at 07:47 AM
Chris writes in a classic style when the best way to make your name worthy was to shape an identity easy to be recognized.
Now, I think people are searching for value, because they know their power as consumers has increased. With some products it´s easier to know where the value is, with others design and logos can be helpful but price/value is still a working equation. Still, the success of one product brand should be differetiated from the success of the company brand, though at last one should follow the other, but it´s not always like that.
Posted by: felix gerena | May 05, 2005 at 11:36 AM
I psoted my comments on Chris's Blog. However, I am yet to see Chris .. step up to the plate and engage in the dicourse !!
I am seeing more chatter here then there !!
What I did not like about Chris's comments were on " Make it look Bigger" and then literally fudges' a brand/logo (?) identity which makes it look bigger !!
Is that not a outright lie ?? Then were is the integrity /trust model that will be built between me and the logo(brand?)
Posted by: /pd | May 05, 2005 at 04:06 PM
Wow, from the looks of it, you really threw some bait to the piranhas, Tom. Very clever. LOL.
Passion runs high!
Posted by: Aleah | May 05, 2005 at 04:16 PM
hi tom.
by no means i want to be short of a comment on your page.
so, i actually posted my comment on marketonomy.com as an ultra-long “why i hate brand- definition-discussions / in defence of ck, not that he needs it”-post.
:)
guess who was the “heavy first class passenger”-client that i am referring to (email only).
let’s keep the spirit!
there is only one direction!
we are all heading for it: the future.
regards
jens
Posted by: jens | May 05, 2005 at 05:19 PM
ps: love the william hazlitt quote.
Posted by: jens | May 05, 2005 at 05:22 PM
As many have said --there is a profound difference between identity and brand. Still there will always be confusion, because brand has become vague shorthand in the marketing world. many who use it throw it around like they do "strategy" Identity contributes to brand in the sense that communicating identity in a pleasing, clear manner, supports the reduction of pre-purchase dissonace. That "pre-purchase dissonace reduction" is any brand's core value to its attendant business and it's customers.
More importantly though, branding is any and all the work a company does to reduce the leap of faith required to exchage hard- earned cash with a good or service that may (or more importantly, may not) hold the same value as the cash did--this is the essence of the consumer's dissonance-- particularly the surrender of the potential cash represents for the holder. Cash symbolizes potential--purchace is a sacrifice of that potential for a reduction of some sort of desire. Any activity associated with making buyer's value clearer and thus, sacrifice easier, is branding. The communication around how an offering reduces the buyer dissonance is only one part of the many things an organization does to brand itself . The identity a brand might take is a still smaller part of that communication.
When we only have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Posted by: tom barnes | May 07, 2005 at 10:27 AM
tom barnes has "nailed" it - thanks for that hammer.
great post.
Posted by: jens | May 08, 2005 at 07:26 AM